[KB] Fwd: Re: Phillies, Cardinals, Identification, and 50-50
coe at sfu.ca
Mon Dec 28 19:20:36 EST 2009
>I suspect there are few more straightforward examples of
>identification than fan[atic]s identification with professional
>sports teams (in which category I include major college football and
>basketball). Just think about how often you hear fans say, "WE won
>last night," when talking about a group of professional mercenary
>athletes who happen to be playing in their city (for now) and with
>whom they are certainly not identical. Heck, I haven't lived in NYC
>since I was 20, but I still identify with the Mets, Knicks, Rangers,
>Giants, and even the Jets; it still makes me feel good when they win!
>I'll bet global warming would reduce Burke's prophesy, were he alive
>to revise it, far below 50-50. What are the odds that China, the
>USA, Exxon, et alii will do enough, soon enough to stop any one of
>a number of possible events (e.g., the melting of the Arctic
>permafrost) that would more than offset all seriously proposed human
>actions for reducing greenhouse gases? (On the other hand, if
>something happens to kill about 5 billion Homo sapiens, preferably
>the richer ones who consume and pollute more--remember Burke's
>little 'declension' linking consumption, production, pollution,
>etc.--the odds on our survival will increase significantly.)
>BTW, doesn't the term stereotype, like the term discrimination, now
>signify only to those stereotypes deemed socially harmful? Were the
>fans booing Rolen booing him as a person or as what Burke would have
>called an emblem (a.k.a., icon)?
>(50-50, BTW, is also the name of a Canadian raffle played at hockey
>games, 50% of money spent buying raffles for the winner, 50% for charity.)
>At 03:35 PM 12/28/2009, you wrote:
>>Just a few quick comments on Jerry's interesting response to my
>>Rick Wise for Steve Carlton in 1972? To the Cardinals I still say,
>>thank you, thank you, and thank you again! What a trade for the
>>Phillies! In his first year, Carlton won 27 games for an awful
>>Phillies team. Along with Mike Schmidt, he was a lynchpin in a
>>decade of Phillies success, from 1975 to 1984. Those teams only
>>won one World Championship, but the Phillies were "better"
>>virtually that whole span.
>>Don't fret too much though, Jerry. All teams make such
>>mistakes. Why the Phillies let Ryne Sandberg and Ferguson Jenkins
>>go from Connie MacK/The Vet to Wrigley I'll never know. What a
>>swipe for the Cubbies.
>>Then there's Rolen---first name excapes me---maybe destined to be
>>the greatest all-around third basemen in history, if he had stayed
>>healthy and continued to perform in St. Louis the way hie did his
>>first couple of years there. When he was traded from Philly to St.
>>Lou, he said he thought he had died and gone to Heaven. I remember
>>one Father's Day, Veterans Stadium packed, my wife and I sitting in
>>the left field stands, Rolen having an off day at the plate, the
>>spectators booing him unmercifully his last at bat. In my brief
>>experience there, Midwesterners seemed to be "nicer," more
>>polite. Am I excessively stereotyping? We all stereotype up to a
>>point, always. Our idealized, essentialized abstractions are
>>inherently stereotypical. As Trevor Melia once said in answer to a
>>question of mine at an ECA Burke panel, "You couldn't cross the
>>street without stereotyping."}
>>But what a fielder! Only Brooks Robinson could touch him at thrid.
>>J. D. Drew? I can see him now, from my seat way up and behind
>>third base, hitting a home run at the vet for the Cards, to the
>>sound of thunderous boos from unforgiving Philly fans. He did put
>>a thumb in the eye of Philadelphia while in a Cardinals' uniform.
>>As I said in my original post, Andy Reid and the Eagles have done
>>just fine in the first decade of the 21st century. They've been
>>"better" again and again and again, even if they've never been
>>"best." Unless we symbolizers learn the lesson such "success'
>>teaches, and learn it soon, Burke's prophecy, vouchsafed to me in a
>>hotel room in Boston in 1987 may come to pass on the
>>downside. What are our chances in the years ahead, I
>>asked? "Fifty-fifty," Burke replied.
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