The Portmanteau Phrase

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 ya know--when you're an english teacher, people ask you stupid questions like this--what's the difference between a metaphor and an analogy:>?
--poindexter
  Leslie Bruder <LBruder at elcabop.org> wrote: Thanks Bob and James and many others who have offered directions and cues.
The subject of metaphor, symbolism, etymology and word-play seems like an
area that has as yet not received a lot of attention...but only because I'm
largely unaware of the research that has already been done and especially of
that which is being done today. 

Thanks for helping me connect some dots.

Have a great holiday all.

Leslie

-----Original Message-----
From: RWess at orst.edu [mailto:RWess at orst.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 4:28 PM
To: LBruder at elcabop.org; jk44 at umail.umd.edu
Cc: kb at purdue.edu
Subject: RE: The Portmanteau Phrase


Leslie,

Perhaps Burke's most widely known "joycing" is his reading of Keats's
beauty/truth (body/turd). See RM 204. 

Burke's defense of this reading against his critics is among the topics he
takes up in "As I Was Saying," Michigan Quarterly Review 11 (1972): 9-27.

Bob Wess

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> From: James F. Klumpp[SMTP:jk44 at umail.umd.edu]
> Reply To: jk44 at umail.umd.edu
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 1:39 PM
> To: Leslie Bruder
> Cc: 'kb at purdue.edu'
> Subject: Re: The Portmanteau Phrase
> 
> Leslie,
> 
> I won't go into your thought on this in any depth for fear 
> of taking too much out of a rich play. But you relate your 
> thinking to ATH when Burke is much more explicit about the 
> things you discuss in Philosophy of Literary Form. Some of 
> the joycing (Burke's word) leaps there go too far for me. 
> You make more sense on these issues than Burke. Yet, I 
> believe he is saying things that will refine your analysis. 
> So take a look and return to the parlor.
> 
> PS: If you have already studied this section, forgive my 
> incitation.
> 
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> James F. Klumpp
> jklumpp at umd.edu
> Voice: 301-405-6520
> FAX: 301-314-9471
> HomePage: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~jklumpp/home.htm
> 


Jerry Ross, Assistant Professor
Department of Communications and Humanities
Southwestern Illinois College
2700 Carlyle Avenue
Belleville, IL 62221
(618) 235-2700 Ext. 5415




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<P> ya know--when you're an english teacher, people ask you stupid questions like this--what's the difference between a metaphor and an analogy:&gt;?
<P>--poindexter
<P>&nbsp; <B><I>Leslie Bruder &lt;LBruder at elcabop.org&gt;</I></B> wrote: 
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Thanks Bob and James and many others who have offered directions and cues.<BR>The subject of metaphor, symbolism, etymology and word-play seems like an<BR>area that has as yet not received a lot of attention...but only because I'm<BR>largely unaware of the research that has already been done and especially of<BR>that which is being done today. <BR><BR>Thanks for helping me connect some dots.<BR><BR>Have a great holiday all.<BR><BR>Leslie<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: RWess at orst.edu [mailto:RWess at orst.edu]<BR>Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 4:28 PM<BR>To: LBruder at elcabop.org; jk44 at umail.umd.edu<BR>Cc: kb at purdue.edu<BR>Subject: RE: The Portmanteau Phrase<BR><BR><BR>Leslie,<BR><BR>Perhaps Burke's most widely known "joycing" is his reading of Keats's<BR>beauty/truth (body/turd). See RM 204. <BR><BR>Burke's defense of this reading against his critics is among the topics he<BR>t!
akes up in "As I Was Saying," Michigan Quarterly Review 11 (1972): 9-27.<BR><BR>Bob Wess<BR><BR>&gt; ----------<BR>&gt; From: James F. Klumpp[SMTP:jk44 at umail.umd.edu]<BR>&gt; Reply To: jk44 at umail.umd.edu<BR>&gt; Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 1:39 PM<BR>&gt; To: Leslie Bruder<BR>&gt; Cc: 'kb at purdue.edu'<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: The Portmanteau Phrase<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Leslie,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I won't go into your thought on this in any depth for fear <BR>&gt; of taking too much out of a rich play. But you relate your <BR>&gt; thinking to ATH when Burke is much more explicit about the <BR>&gt; things you discuss in Philosophy of Literary Form. Some of <BR>&gt; the joycing (Burke's word) leaps there go too far for me. <BR>&gt; You make more sense on these issues than Burke. Yet, I <BR>&gt; believe he is saying things that will refine your analysis. <BR>&gt; So take a look and return to the parlor.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; PS: If you have already studied this section, forgive my <BR>&gt; i!
ncitation.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ----------------------<BR>&gt; James F. Klumpp<BR>&gt; jklumpp at umd.edu<BR>&gt; Voice: 301-405-6520<BR>&gt; FAX: 301-314-9471<BR>&gt; HomePage: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~jklumpp/home.htm<BR>&gt; </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><P>Jerry Ross, Assistant Professor<BR>Department of Communications and Humanities<BR>Southwestern Illinois College<BR>2700 Carlyle Avenue<BR>Belleville, IL 62221<BR>(618) 235-2700 Ext. 5415<BR></P><p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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