[Cytometry] Formation of a new core

Michele Black mblack2 at myuw.net
Fri Apr 12 15:54:44 EDT 2013

Hi Lorelle,

One more voice to add to some sound advice already given.

I am currently 6 weeks out from my move to an expanded flow core facility that was built from the ground up. 

Dave Coder is absolutely right about involvement with the building design phase if possible.  The flow core is very specialized even for laboratories and it needs special consideration that will get overlooked in general lab space planning unless they understand how the space is used. I have already had to get modifications to the space on early walk through to be sure that when the instruments arrive they will have the power, space, foundations to be put into use.

In regards to biosafety, my new space was designed to accommodate sorters in individual rooms contained within biosafety cabinets that will enclose the sorter plus the wetcart and have integrated aerosol management of the sorter. I worked directly with the hood manufacture and the building architects to create a cabinet that would fit in a small space but still allow accessibility for maintenance and service.  Excited and a bit nervous to move the sorters in and see if all the planning and designing right on.

One very important part of starting a core from the ground up is your financial planning. Depending on how you are funded this may look very different from one core to another. Estimating operating costs, usage, depreciation and a rate structure can be complicated. Even with the best guesses for a brand new facility, my experience has been with the new flow cores I have setup usage builds over time and at first, your rates that get people in the door may not meet the volume needed to cover all the cost. My advice is to be conservative with usage at first until things get up and running and be prepared to cover a deficit if usage takes a while to gain momentum.  

General lab equipment like a microscope for cell verification, aerosol testing ( via the glo germ protocol) and even sorting QC is a good to have. A location to safely transfer or filter samples would be important to include. Having your office as mentioned before, near the facility greatly aids in helping the more independent user field a quick question and lets you "multi task". Having a computer lab for offline analysis I find to be a huge benefit to the user. There are many other details I am sure many core managers can think of top add to this. The CYTO conference is a great place to get advice sadly,  I will not be at CYTO 2013 since I will be getting to the final stages of my move.  I am happy to speak with you over the phone or by email if you have any questions.
Kind regards,

Michele Black
Director | Cell Analysis Facility
Department of Immunology
University of Washington

(206) 685-3014


(206) 543-1013

mblack2 at uw.edu

From: cytometry-bounces at lists.purdue.edu [cytometry-bounces at lists.purdue.edu] on behalf of David Coder [davecoder at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 9:51 AM
To: lparker at chori.org
Cc: cytometry at lists.purdue.edu
Subject: Re: [Cytometry] Formation of a new core

Hi Lorelle,

As others have mentioned, planning *before* having to build is essential.
Having modified and built (from the ground up) core facilities at the Fred
Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, there can be learning curve. (I say this
as probably the only cytometrist who also has a degree in architecture.)

There should be help from architects/engineers who deal with laboratory
space--but they will not have all the answers as cytometry and sorting have
special requirements.

There are a wide range of issues from utilities (don't overlook secure,
high speed internet), to room access, light levels, transfer hoods, sample
prep/storage/disposal, ergonomics of workstations and instrument placement,
 building location (heating, ventilation, air conditioning, vibrations from
outside),  biosafety (both operator protection and product protection),
ease of instrument access for service--to name some.

I'd be happy to talk further if you wish.

*David M. Coder, PhD*
Irvine, CA

Email: DaveCoder at gmail.com
Cell phone: 949 233 2641
Skype: dave.coder

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Simon Monard" <monard at wehi.EDU.AU>
> To: "Nicolas Loof" <Nicolas.Loof at utsouthwestern.edu>
> Cc: cytometry at lists.purdue.edu
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:20:56 +1000 (EST)
> Subject: Re: [Cytometry] Formation of a new core
> Hi Lorelle
> There is quite a lot to consider, if you are going to Cyto 2013 there will
> be lots of people to talk to about this, you should visit a few labs.  You
> don't say whether you'll have cell sorters, I assume so. Is the room
> established already? I also assume you'll be sorting human cells in which
> case your facility should probably  be divided into sorting and analysis
> sections with the sorters in a lab which is BL3 or close to BL3. Thats not
> something you can easily retrofit so should be established right away. If
> your instruments will be in hoods will the ceiling height be high enough?
> You'll need all the other facilities such as air, vacuum etc as Nicolas
> says. Save yourself a whole lot of grief later on and get the lab built
> with biosafety in mind.
> Best
> Simon
> > Hello Lorelle,
> > I had the opportunity to establish a flow core last year so here is my
> > recommendation:
> > First you need to know what instruments you need and will be needed in
> the
> > future.
> > Establish the floor plan: included future instruments, analysis stations,
> > office (my office is kind of far of the facility and it's not the most
> > convenient)
> > I've included in-house air (it make the room more quiet and instrument
> > air-compressor will give you back up if in-house air is failing) and fast
> > internet connection for data transfer to servers.
> > You need room temperature control, a lab-sink to dump the waste...
> >
> > I do not have a microscope to check the staining for me.
> >
> > Do not hesitate to contact me if you have more questions.
> > Regards,
> > Nicolas
> >
> >
> > Nicolas Loof, MS
> > Manager, CRI Flow Cytometry Shared Facility
> > Children’s Medical Center Research Institute at UTSW
> > Biomedical Research Building – NL12.110DB
> > 6000 Harry Hines Blvd., Dallas, TX 75235
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Lorelle Parker
> > <lparker at chori.org<mailto:lparker at chori.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Fellow Flow-ers,
> > We are in the process of creating a new flow core from scratch and I was
> > wondering from the other members of the list:
> >
> > What changes would you make to your flow core if you could?
> > What would you have included that you didn't?
> > Was there anything logistically that you learned afterwards which you
> wish
> > you had thought about before?
> > Do you have a microscope and do users use it to check the staining of
> > their cells prior to running their samples?
> >
> >
> > Any additional information would be greatly appreciated.
> > I thank you all in advance for your time,
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Lorelle
> >
> > Lorelle Parker, M.S., Psy. D.
> > Flow Cytometry Core
> > Children's Hospital Oakland Research Institute
> > 5700 Martin Luther King, Jr. Way
> > Oakland, California 94609
> > 510.450.7632
> > lparker at chori.org<mailto:lparker at chori.org>
> >
> >
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