Antwort: consistency in counting cells by flow anne.h.illi-love at
Thu Mar 21 08:26:21 EST 2002

Hi Yoav and Georg,

Having just recently called BD for this information, BD Immunocytometry
Systems does offer the TruCount Tubes without having to buy the Multi- and
TriTest reagents.  The catalog number is 340334.  It comes with 2 packages of
25 tubes and lists for $395.  TruCount Controls (low, medium, and high) are
purchased separately (Catalog 340335).
Kind regards,

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                    03/19/02 09:11 AM

Hi Yoav,
we have used Becton Dickinsion´s TruCount beads (defined number of beads in
FACS tubes, see with
good results and calculated absolute cell numbers from total events (e.g.
10,000 to 15,000) using cell and bead counts within the mixture after
gating on beads and PI (propidium iodide) negative live and/or PI positive
dead cells mainly according to BD´s protocol. However, for an accurate
calculation proper mixtures/proportions of beads and cells (not to many
cells!) are necessary.
The major disadvantage is that - as far as I know - BD does not offer the
beads separately under normal conditions. Nevertheless I would ask .....
Best regards
Georg Kreysch

yaltman at am 15.03.2002 23:52:01

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Dear Flowers,

A colleague of mine wishes to use a FACScan to count cells for an
experiment.  The experiment will proceed over several weeks, and he
wishes to count live and dead cells over several time points (eg. 1
wk, 2 wks, etc.)

Assuming that his samples are resuspended in the same volume every
time, and that the flow rate would be the same from week to week or
sample to sample, he could just take the number of events in his live
gate vs. non-debris events.  But, he is concerned that flow rate may
vary from week to week due to small obstructions in the fluidics.

It seems that if we had a bead of known concentration we could add
these to the sample and do something like stop collecting after
10,000 beads and thus know we had the same volume as last time.  Does
this seem like a viable approach.  Does anyone make beads in known
concentration, or is there some other standard we can use to know
that we are counting cells in the same volume from week to week.


Yoav Altman
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La Jolla Institute for Allergy & Immunology
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