[Citizendium-editors] Community-building tools

Larry Sanger sanger-lists at citizendium.org
Sun Nov 12 02:50:55 EST 2006


Well, lots of people are saying this, and it looks like it would be
impolitic for me to disagree with it.  I think we might simply move list
discussion to (new) forums.

I've been taking yesterday and today off--a much needed break, the first in
a month or more.  Tomorrow, I want to present a plan for the coming week or
two.  It is (in part) a frontal attack on the problem of fragmented
discussion and getting us organized.


> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:citizendium-editors-bounces at lists.purdue.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Fitzgerald, Robert
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:16 PM
> To: citizendium-editors at lists.purdue.edu
> Subject: [Citizendium-editors] Community-building tools
> There is increasing frustration with the way this list is 
> working and I think it is time we seriously consider moving 
> the discussion off this listserv. We are trying to engage in 
> new work with old tools and these tools are certainly not 
> helping us transcend disciplinary boundaries nor helping us 
> build on good existing work. 
> The threaded nature of listserv communication and the limited 
> ways for inspecting the emerging conversation (e.g. Author, 
> Date, Thread etc), do not seem conducive to bringing people 
> and ideas together. When you look at social networking sites 
> you find that people value getting to know each other and 
> connecting with people who share their interests. Users 
> expect to control and manage their identity (or identifies). 
> They want a place to blog (or at least a way to integrate 
> their existing blogs) and comment on other's blogs. They want 
> the choice as to how they read their community (e.g. by email 
> or web). Many of these sites let their users tag their work 
> and provide powerful search functions that allow them - and 
> others - to find and re-use that work. People want to see 
> their community in action and there are some really 
> interesting uses of cloud tags to visualise the community's 
> activity.  Finally in the interests of a more open and 
> democratic process, people want the facility to comment, vote 
> and rate the community's ideas and objects. While this is a 
> rapidly changing landscape, MySpace, Facebook, del.icio.us 
> and Flickr all offer interesting - though different - ways of 
> sharing ideas and things. Bottom line, they all share a 
> concern for social connectivity.
> The CZ group is community of scholars attempting to build new 
> ways of co-creating quality knowledge. Our early 
> conversations will be highly influential in relation to type 
> of community that gets formed and this will have implications 
> for the quality of our work. In a previous post I mentioned 
> the possible use of Google Groups but there are other good 
> examples of forum/group software (I don't think the 
> Discussion page in Mediawiki is enough). I think we need to 
> hook together a few complementary systems. For my money the 
> work of Openacademic (http://openacademic.org/) using Moodle, 
> Drupal, Elgg, OpenID and MediaWiki is very promising. 
> My main concern is that we find a better way of linking our 
> dialogue and our article work sooner rather than later! 
> Cheers
> Rob
> Dr Robert Fitzgerald
> Research Fellow
> Learning Communities Research Area
> University of Canberra
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